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Belgium

well since watermelon growing is so populat at the moment I thought this should be woth mentionin. the ones <ho have ben here for quit sometime might know this. a few years back a grower from china grew a 325lbs watermelon but it never came in officially, he has a diary here on the site and I think that watermeoln should be worth planting.
believe it or not but it was 325lbs and since there isn't much infor on part of the world it could have some truth in it. China has the idel climate for melons . maybe some growers who are interested could grow this one.
who knows, it could be a very good seed

12/27/2010 3:09:28 PM

Belgium

and please don't shoot me if you don't belive it....

12/27/2010 3:10:46 PM

Belgium

believe*

12/27/2010 3:11:08 PM

sevierville, Tn

who, what, where ???? link ?

12/27/2010 4:56:17 PM

Ohio

really, i want some of them seeds

12/27/2010 5:12:04 PM

Rochester, Minnesota

What can you say? Without any proof it and verification it just doesn't count. A 325 doesn't happen out of the blue. There would be lots of other large melons around it by that grower and by others.

Nothing shows up when searching different patterns looking for it, so at this point we can't take it serious. Of course We would quickly be willing to take it serious if information was brought out, but even then it would have to be at least marginally backed up by other measurements.

12/27/2010 5:18:43 PM

Western NY

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=101875

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=78268

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=124390

That seems to be the extent of the evidence. Perhaps it was a typo? Perhaps someone could email him? Seems like a nice enough fella.

12/27/2010 5:31:04 PM

sevierville, Tn

wow, well its big thats for sure, but in a picture, no telling. Could be 225 or 325 or 425.

12/27/2010 8:14:05 PM

Muddy Waters

How do you see this melon im computer stupid??

12/27/2010 8:22:18 PM

Gays Mills,WI

Go to Growers Diaries 2008, under the name pumpkin prince entry number 7.

12/27/2010 8:36:20 PM

Mississippi

I say that melon is not even 225. That is a short girl beside it and he is small too.

12/27/2010 11:00:26 PM

El Paso TX.

HHG - Hilight the lines in Andy's post (3rd line is the pic of the melons) - right click - copy -- go to your browser tab and open a new tab - right click on the place to type in the address and paste and press enter (should bring up the pic.)

12/27/2010 11:13:19 PM

Belgium

it wasn't a typo, and I believe you would all be to yealous to believe it and will denie it in every way like you always do if someone from another country has somthing that is bigger than you have. don't you?
well back to my point that guy lives in Taiwan and is a proffesional grower so I would belive that he could be more trusted than everyone else
and If you believe it it's fine and you could have growing them like you have with pumpkins. if you don't belie it well than you don't, I only says that there COULD BE SOME TRUTH IN IT and it can never hurt to try them. I think this is the same way as everyone started growing AG's i the past, isn't it??

12/28/2010 2:30:13 AM

Muddy Waters

I got lost at browser tab, & scrolled through 2008 Diary cant find it Im a IDIOT Could someone Email pic to me.Markclementz@comcast.net.Hey ETM we also have LARGEST computer idiot in World ME!!!!LLOOLOL

12/28/2010 8:16:03 AM

Muddy Waters

You should take it easy this is a non-polictical place.Its a man thing mines bigger than yours.Nothing to do with Country,Church or State.Lets keep BP a Neutrel Zone,it could get ugly,thats no fun.If I wanted crap I would watch TV.Have A good New Year.

12/28/2010 8:25:50 AM

Belgium

you know as good as everyone else that I wasn't refering to that, I'm just telling that some people don't like the fact that it comes from Taiwan. political stuff has nothing to do with this.
if you don't believe it it's fine just keep in mind that there are also other people in the world who can grow big fruits. I was only telling this beacause you always denie it if it's not offically, sometimes it just isn't possbile to get things offically. and btw it was never my intention to cause trouble about a watermelon. and you should stop twisting the eaning of my words . I can understand that you want the biggest of all, but you should also respect other people in the world ann that's not always the case here. just keep in mind that there could be a bigger melon in the world.

12/28/2010 8:57:53 AM

Muddy Waters

Ok I My Drama Queen Did It!! I saw photo.Its to hard to tell,Like Chris said,225,325 425.Im not Denying it but its unproven.Why didnt they register with Guisness??Or somewhere official?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????It didnt go in the Books SO IT DONT COUNT!!You got seeds from it??Lets Grow em BABY!!!"And thats all I got to say about that"

12/28/2010 8:59:56 AM

Muddy Waters

Whos btw???

12/28/2010 9:07:51 AM

Usa

why care about a stupid book? back in the past a book like that was usseles?
who says everything on here is offical?
and I believe ETM was already saying from the beginning that we should grow it to try it and see what it does, offical or not. not everyone can have the possbility to get it in the books.
you should understand that every country is diffrent and not everything is as easy as is looks. and this has nothing to do with drama, if you think it's worth figthing for you should do it no matter what other people think about it.

12/28/2010 9:14:31 AM

Trinity River Bottom

there are like 3 pictures. It never says pounds any where. but it does say 62 kilograms. thats 137 lbs.

12/28/2010 9:33:41 AM

Muddy Waters

This isnt worth fightin for.Stick me with a fork!!!

12/28/2010 9:46:05 AM

El Paso TX.

In my Opinion whether it did or did not weigh in at 325 Lbs. doesn't matter - The official record is the official record and if it was not weighed in and made official then it is not recognized as the official largest ever grown (It is too easy to manipulate photos to make things look bigger than they actually are and as was stated it is hard to tell from a photo whether it is or isn't that large ( For Example a couple minutes in photoshop and you have this : http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc189/JDFanning_bucket/melon01.jpg ) -- not sayibg that is the case here but just saying if it isn't made official there is no way of knowing for sure !

12/28/2010 9:49:07 AM

sevierville, Tn

Good one JD, can I have seeds from your melon ! LOL

If the guy wants to send me seeds & history, Or address for a bubble, I'll be happy to consider it for my patch.
Otherwise its a great melon & I wish him much sucess. The 325 wont stand too long anyway, so it will all be moot in a few years. No sence getting stired up about it.

12/28/2010 10:31:05 AM

sevierville, Tn

I don't care where its grown, if its big, i'll give it a try. I'm sure there are lots that are grown all over the world that are big & never get official weights. I wish he would come on here and post. Takes alot of effort to get one that big.

12/28/2010 10:34:55 AM

Rome Ga

it says on his diary 62 kilograms that comes out to 136 lbs. if i am reading it right. it does look like a fat melon

12/28/2010 10:45:44 AM

Rochester, Minnesota

I guess I don't know why we have comments about not believing something just because it comes from another country. That's just strange because I really haven't seen any comments that enforce that stereotype. We live and die by our measurements and verifications. I know that different regions of the world grow things better, and that's what makes this great. I also know that like many others, I have sent seeds all over the world.

12/28/2010 11:20:13 AM

Lexington, Ky

Any grower with Show Girls admiring Long Gourds in his garden has merit in my book! ;}

12/28/2010 2:15:25 PM

sevierville, Tn

I hope he is alright, said he was going in for surgery at the end of 2009, didn't see a posting for 2010.

12/28/2010 2:40:16 PM

Hamilton Nj

wow that is a huge melon lol !!! pizza

12/28/2010 2:44:56 PM

Trinity River Bottom

his last diary entry was 6-15-10

12/28/2010 3:27:37 PM

Southeast Texas

dammit..jamie..lol

12/28/2010 4:17:43 PM

Nd

In most of agriculture the varieties are so numerous that they are given numbers or a series of numbers and letters. I believe this is the case here, 325 is the number of the cross or variety.

12/28/2010 5:54:21 PM

South Bloomfield, Ohio

ETM, your first comments were very scathing in nature and I can't see where anyone posted anything of a self-righteous nature in this thread. Do you think U.S growers are all self-righteous?

I happen to admire European growers as a whole for entering an organized hobby such as this which, for years was dominated by U.S. growers simply because it hadn't yet caught on in Europe, and catching up very nicely and becoming players in this now global hobby.

Your comments were certainly not warranted.

12/28/2010 9:03:58 PM

Muddy Waters

Why would a man from China be more trusted than anyone else???This reeks of racism!!!

12/28/2010 10:04:20 PM

Belgium

no sence talking to you guys, you always deny evrything an you think you know evrything better than averyone else.

12/29/2010 1:30:14 AM

Long Island,New York

Is this the rude european I heard about?

12/29/2010 7:50:22 AM

Muddy Waters

You keep refering to US americans or are you including are canada friends in this you guys(term) WHOS YOU GUYS)My great grand parents are from Germany My grama was half Indian,My Aunt Carmen of 50 years is Mexican,THIS IS THE GIANT MELTING POT OF THE WORLD.You need to look in the mirror,Your Anti-YOU GUYS.NO sence talking to us guys your digging a deeper hole.

12/29/2010 8:32:03 AM

Shaking my head as I read this thread,,,

As you might have seen, Jack did grow some of my AG seeds, we communicated for a couple of years about techniques we use here. While his heat is extreme for growing giant pumpkins I assume it is near perfect for melons.

I remember some discussion at least in BP chat when he grew the large melons. He is a profession grower, teacher, and well versed in growing all types of plants. Check out his diaries for those few years, you'll be amazed.

I just sent him an email linking to this discussion (we have not emailed in along time) hopefully he will respond.

12/29/2010 8:38:36 AM

Muddy Waters

Your missing the point!! See this Got Ugly!!"You GUYS"

12/29/2010 9:08:21 AM

Southeast Texas

i see how etm is toward americans now,there is no way i would plant one of them so called 239 leonard seeds he gave away.unless they could be varified some way.

12/29/2010 9:12:29 AM

Belgium

lol Glenn

12/29/2010 9:56:04 AM

Belgium

Paul you are twisting my words, I have never said anything about a natitionality. I only said thatsome people ( not refering to everyone) keep denying everything, sometimes there is a good reason, if it not offical than let it be, just keep in mind that there could have been a bigger melon. I would like to stop arguing about that bullshit about nationalties, you are talking about diffrent topics at the same time and I would like to make an end on this. this obviously turned out in an other way like I wanted it to be.

12/29/2010 10:17:04 AM

Rochester, Minnesota

We want it to be a bigger melon. We want genetics that prove into the 300 pound and even 400 pound range. But we also want some validation. Newspaper article, picture on a scale, competition list, secondary melons that weight close, dimensions measurements.

We want to believe, and then we want seeds to keep it going.

Although racism is talked about in the US, it is typically addressed head on and attempted to be worked out.

12/29/2010 10:27:41 AM

Belgium

just stop about that bullshit about racism, it's that freaken melon that counts

12/29/2010 10:32:53 AM

El Paso TX.

ETM -- it was you who started the Racism talk in your post :
[Quote]it wasn't a typo, and I believe you would all be to yealous to believe it and will denie it in every way like you always do if someone from another country has somthing that is bigger than you have. don't you?[\end Quote]

Which is why everyone is responding in the way they are - It doesn't matter where the grower is from without verification of some sort on the size you can not judge if it is accurate or not from a picture (As I showed in my earlier post a Picture can be manipulated either intentionally or just due to the angle the pic is taken from so that is not a valid method for determining the size\weight of a fruit) -- Secondly the grower never mentions a weight and as stated earlier the 325 in the name may just be a number used to specify the genetic line it comes from - so he may not even be saying that it was a 325lb. melon in the first place and everyone has only been suggesting that it can not be determined if indeed it was a 325lb/ melon from the pics so not sure why you got defensive and started saying that the US growers do not respect others from different countries as even if this was a melon from the US the same questions would be asked.

12/29/2010 11:12:29 AM

Ohio

thought some of my posts got ugly!

12/29/2010 11:39:35 AM

Belgium

well lets clearfy this , I think that that 325 never existed. maybe it was a typo or jack maybe ment something else. somethings it's not always that clear what some peole mean. I'm not gonna go furthur on the post of JD he is only looking for some kind of trouble that I never wanted to have, sorry if I caused any trouble ( this is not what I wanted to do) . let this be the end of this post. after furthur investigation I realise it maybe wasn't a 325 but something else. sorry to everyone.
and let this be the end of topic please

12/29/2010 11:57:45 AM

Belgium

ps, the picture in his diary is not the watermelon I was talking about
lol

12/29/2010 11:59:29 AM

Southeast Texas

if the 325 melon was grown in hell and he could prove it was 325lbs ..id buy a seed on a auction.

12/29/2010 12:30:22 PM

Belgium

so after further investigation I have come to the flowwing coclusion that the 325 may not have existed are that there isn't any proove of it, it could be a misunderstanding of me
the 325 has atleast not bean grown by Jack that for sure

12/29/2010 1:01:35 PM

sevierville, Tn

Wow, so this 50 post thread was about a non existant 325 lb melon ?????
We use to have NICE discussions about growing over here on the melon board :(

12/29/2010 2:37:24 PM

Muddy Waters

Im tired of being the hated American all I ever did was try to"sow some seeds of love"But I do believe in Tough Love.We better let this die.I forgive you ETM!!!

12/29/2010 5:48:06 PM

Lexington,IN

My melon that got stolen weighed 292 lbs...

12/29/2010 9:26:34 PM

Lexington,IN

I forgot to take pictures...LOL

12/29/2010 9:26:59 PM

California central valley

I emailed PP about this big watermelon a couple of years ago and never got a reply, but you will notice that his English is limited. My guess is that this watermelon is up in the 250 lb range and if someone offered me seed I would gladly accept it, but I'm not really that concerned about it. PP gets many of his seeds from the US or Europe. This big watermelon looks like just another American giant watermelon but grown out in a perfect watermelon growing climate in Taiwan. There is no sign it is from a different genetic pool. While folks in Taiwan love watermelon, there is no history there of giant watermelon contests so I doubt this is from any Taiwan germplasm. They do have giant watermelon contests in mainland China and they do have some interesting genetics there, but their big watermelons look nothing like the American giants:

http://www.peopleforum.cn/redirect.php?tid=4544&goto=lastpost

12/29/2010 9:28:29 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Midwest Native...where do watermelons originate and is that a specific breed you are speaking of American giant watermelon?

12/29/2010 9:43:08 PM

California central valley

Watermelons originated in Africa. They made it to China about 1000 years ago so they have had plenty of time to breed some interesting stuff there. "American giant watermelon" is just how I am referring to the Carolina Cross hybrids that have been setting the world records for the last 30 years or so by the Brights and others.

12/29/2010 10:10:21 PM

California central valley

Here's a Chinese variety that averages 17kg but they say it can get up to 60kg-

http://www.zhengnongseed.com/en/xg_clhdg_e.html

12/29/2010 11:34:00 PM

Muddy Waters

I emailed Jack( Taiwain pumpkinprince) he does claim a 147.7 kilo melon was grown 20 years ago in Tibet.No pics were taken,to poor at time to have camera.Hes not willing to fight to prove its all legend at this point.If your willing to fight to prove this, than you dont know JACK!!I DO I spoke with him on line.I had a dream once I was eating a 50 lb marsh mellow when I woke up my pillow was gone.Why so Serious!! FOLKS!!!

12/30/2010 8:04:54 AM

Sevierville,tn

I keep thinking of the shirts that I saw when we took our melon to the weigh off.... The BS stops when the tailgate Drops....I think we did that:)

12/30/2010 10:17:20 AM

Lexington,IN

Yes MsJanet, you all did that everywhere you went, especially NC!

12/30/2010 12:06:08 PM