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Buffalo, New York

Probably gonna expand my patch to about 23' x 40' long.
i figured i could have 3 plants in this area, 1 down the middle and 1 on each side of it coming up the opposite way. then i could plant my regular veggies around the plants.

what would be the best layout for 2-3 plants in this size patch?

2/9/2008 12:13:45 AM

Farmville, Virginia (mfowler@hsc.edu)

Your patch would only have a max of about 360sq. ft per plant using all the patch with no veggies. Add the veggies and you got even less per plant. I'd go with only 2 plants in that space and try to have more square footage...just my opinion.

2/9/2008 1:28:33 AM

Buffalo, New York

which layout is the best for this size patch?

starting on ends or next to eachother, etc.??

2/9/2008 1:51:16 PM

Buffalo, New York

how about 2 flag patterns?

2/9/2008 2:02:30 PM

Pemberton, BC

Jeremy I would say 2 plants is max. I had a space silmilar to this a couple years ago and it worked out all right. When the plants are full grown it sort of looks like a bowtie.

I planted one plant at each end and let them grow towards each other. With your 23 x 40 layout you could have 12' side vines on each side and if you let the ends of your mains intermingle where they meet you could easily have 25' mains. That would give you 600 sq. feet for each plant in a garden of less than 1000 sq. feet. You could even train the main vines away from each other where they meet.

Chad

2/9/2008 2:19:26 PM

Buffalo, New York

i am thinking of growing 2 flag patterns in the 24' x 23' area and leaving the 16' x 23' area behind the garage (doesnt get sun til 11 am) for the veggies.

2/9/2008 2:48:44 PM

Minnesota

Grow the three, if one of them dies when you have only two going you will lose alot of time getting the one where it should be, this way you just pull the weaker of the 3.

2/9/2008 4:21:14 PM

Danville, CA (petman2@yahoo.com)

Maybe 1 each at 10' from each end on the 40' side and then one on the other side at 20'. Grow opposing christmas trees into each other with 23' mains or thereabouts....

2/9/2008 11:48:50 PM

Buffalo, New York

i thought about it and decided my current 16' x 23' patch behind the garage (doesnt get sun til 11 am) is going to be my veggie area and the 24' x 23' addition i will make will be the home of 2 flag pattern plants. each of these flags will be about 20' long with 12' secondary vines and 2' of secondary vines on the outer sides.

how does it sound?

2/10/2008 1:16:39 PM

Farmville, Virginia (mfowler@hsc.edu)

225 sq. ft. per plant...sounds small but I grew one to 694lbs last seaon on just slightly more than that. I guess it depends on big you want to go. The basic fact is you got to go with what you have and if thats what you have to work with then give it your best and GOOD LUCK!!!

2/10/2008 4:10:00 PM

milford, CT,

Jeremy, My patch is 25 x 40= 1000 sq ft. I have tried in the past to grow 3 plants in this area. It has been a limiting factor. I really believe that if your sights are set on 700 lbs plus you should only grow 2 plants. On the other hand I do think you could easily grow 500 lbers in 360 sq ft. Last year I grew a 769 lber in only 200 sq ft.
The problem is that in order to even get the 360 sq ft per plant they will butt each other. At this boundary area I found that the leaves got very high and also I couldn't get into the middle of the patch to work. Good luck Mark

2/21/2008 3:25:02 PM

Farmington, Utah

2 plants. 23 x40. 460 sguare feet total per plant

2/21/2008 5:04:37 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Yepper...two. Or get the tiller out again.

2/21/2008 5:53:58 PM